Peltier simulation

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pinkfloyd11
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Peltier simulation

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Hi Ettore

I'm try to simulate your Peltier module but not understand how to set Hot source temperature and Cold source temperature.

The idea is to understand if peltier can run a little dc motor if applied near a home radiator.

Maybe this exercise can be useful to all forum reader

Thanks in advice
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Andrew Larkin
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Re: Peltier simulation

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Peltiers work on a temperature differential. I think in your application maintaining that differential would be challenging. They are also quite inefficient so generating enough current to drive a DC motor would be stretching things further.
pinkfloyd11
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Re: Peltier simulation

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Hi Andrew

the application is an "excuse" for study peltier, the real goal of this post
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Re: Peltier simulation

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You can simply use a couple of dc voltage sources to apply to both hot and cold side temperatures to the Peltier cell model supplied with Proteus. The temperature value is 1V x CelsiusDegree, so to apply 50°C to the hot side the generator will be set for 50V. As sketched here:
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Peltier cells are used here as power generators and are based, in this mode, on the Seeback effect (yes, like thermocouples are).

However, they are not at all efficient, in the specific case a single Peltier cell generates less than 1.5V at no load, while maintaining a temperature difference between the hot and cold side of 50°C. 4 cells (71 pairs, Imax=6A) at least are therefore needed to get sufficient voltage and current to turn a 6V mini-motor.

As someone has already said, the main problem is to keep the differential temperature between the two sides as wide as possible. Thermal solutions can be truly challenging; in order to transport the heat from the radiator to the hot side of the Peltier cells, as well as keeping the opposite side cold enough, an assembly consisting of metal plates and heat pipes can be used. The two sides must be thermally isolated from each other as much as possible.

The project file provides just an idea of both the basic schematic for the simulation (root sheet - sheet 1) and the thermal assembly (root sheet - Thermal Assembly Sketch). These are of course given just as start point to further development.
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Kind regards,
Ettore Arena - Labcenter Electronics.
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